I feel like Hank Reardon after Ragnar Danneskjold gave him his first bar of gold in Atlas Shrugged

Wow, my first ounce of gold!
I feel like Hank Reardon after Ragnar Danneskjold gave him his first bar of gold in Atlas Shrugged.

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  • GoldmattersGoldmatters Admin Posts: 4,028 Admin
    Congratulations! I think you will continue to enjoy the benefits of this platform in the future :)
  • mridea314mridea314 Tin ✭ Posts: 3 Tin ✭
    Thank you, I've been worrying about the value of the dollar collapsing for years and this looks like a great solution. I read this story once about the Wiemar Republic crash and how anyone could have easily walked across the border from Germany into France and changed their marks into francs and saved themselves and their savings. With a world of Fiat this seemed impossible but Praise to the free voluntary market to come up with a solution.

  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    @mridea314 congratulations! Like @GoldMatters , @GoldIsCurrency and so many others on this Community you have now established your own Personal Gold Standard.
  • GoldmattersGoldmatters Admin Posts: 4,028 Admin
    @79Au197 we are in this together :)
  • MajesMajes Copper ✭✭ Posts: 41 Copper ✭✭
    Congratulations @mridea314 and welcome to Goldmoney :)
  • Rj838Rj838 Bronze ✭✭✭ Posts: 217 Bronze ✭✭✭
    @mridea314 , Welcome and congrats

    Great start, you are already ahead just by acknowledging how valuable saving in gold really is and just how precious this platform for providing this service and making it accessible to all.

    Get ready for a golden ride with Goldmoney o:)
  • nigelmarkdiasnigelmarkdias Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 1,323 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    Francisco D'Anconia's Money Speech - Atlas Shrugged @mridea314

    Welcome to @Goldmoney :)
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    Gold money indeed.

    Thank @nigelmarkdias for posting this. I have never read Ayn Rand. I see that I need to investigate AtlasSociety.org

    I also see that Parts I, II, and III are available for rent or purchase on iTunes and I assume Amazon.
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    @nigelmarkdias @mridea314 @GoldMatters @Rj838 @Majes

    Never having read Atlas Shrugged I do not know in which time frame of the original book takes place, but interestingly (and prophetically?) the movie (Part I) opening scene is "September 2, 2016"

    Note: the movie is dark, very dark.
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    So … I am currently watching the 2011 Atlas Shrugged: Part I (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480239/)

    Can anyone who has read the book and seen the movie(s) comment on the extent to which the movie(s) follow the book?

    PS   http://community.goldmoney.com/discussion/2245/is-money-the-root-of-all-evil   includes a full reading of "The Money Speech" by Mike Maloney

  • mridea314mridea314 Tin ✭ Posts: 3 Tin ✭
    It follows the book but the book has so much more.
    It's worth the time to read it. I've read it 4 times.
    It changed my life at age 17.
    It's been a beacon ever since.
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    @mridea314 - sadly Part II (of the movie) is an entirely different cast so it disrupts the continuity somewhat. Not so sure about the quality of the acting or screen play by the new cast … but the plot is still unknown to me and pretty compelling if not scarily pertinent most near future scenarios.
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    I just finished watching the three-part Atlas Shrugged movie: Part I, Part II: The Strike, and Part III: Who is John Galt?

    These three movies (or the actual book) and the Mike Maloney video above should be required viewing/reading for everyone (and certainly anyone with a Goldmoney account).

    I found that the changing cast with each movie was a bit disconcerting, but it did not detract significantly from the message of the movies. Despite the attempt at modernization, anyone familiar with the tenets of Communism will realize that Atlas Shrugged was originally a condemnation of the former Soviet Union. However the three-part movie works equally well as a condemnation of the current state of the US and/or the European Union.

    Atlas Shrugged is equal parts SocioPolitical Comentary, Mystery, and Science Fiction. I rented them from iTunes, but they should be available from Amazon too.

  • RocketDogRocketDog Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 782 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    I listen to the audio book constantly as I work. All 50 or so hours. Have heard it at least 5 times. You will recognize the "moochers" in the workplace all around you. It helps me maintain my sanity.

    Goldmoney is like the valley in Colorado, and this community is a little like the residents of that valley. Though not entirely -- we did not all earn our money by doing something productive or constructive and nothing keeps moochers from buying gold (except they may not save their money nor do the research). But still, it is really cool to hang out in a forum with people who have standards, and "get it".

    Ayn Rand wrote Atlas Shrugged in 1957 based on her experiences in Russia -- watching it turn into a communist country. She came to the USA and was alarmed to see the same erosion of standards, and entitlement attitude here and was trying to warn us. She originally wrote "The Fountainhead" in 1943 with the same goal. But apparently it was too complex for the masses to understand the underlying and "between the lines" implications of The Fountainhead. So when she wrote Atlas Shrugged, she dumbed it down, and expanded (hello 3 volumes), and spelled out every detail in the most direct way that she could.

    Think about that time frame 1943 - 2016 -- the writing has been on the wall for a LONG time.

    If you like Atlas Shrugged, be sure to read The Fountainhead, or if you are a smart, busy person, skip Atlas Shrugged and just read The Fountainhead because it is shorter and you will still "get it". Fountainhead is about architecture, Atlas Shrugged is about trains and commerce -- maybe you prefer to look at it that way.
  • RocketDogRocketDog Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 782 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    BTW -- Don't go to Colorado. As a long-time resident of Colorado, I just moved away. All sorts of people are moving there but they are not the ones that belong in the secret valley. It is getting quite intolerable there. People in their 70s who were born in Colorado are getting out too. Mostly migrating to Nebraska and becoming Cornhuskers fans--must be a shock to them.
  • 79Au19779Au197 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭ Posts: 4,047 Gold ✭✭✭✭✭
    @RocketDog thanks I will most likely do the audiobook of Fountainhead next based on your recommendation. Atlas Shugged came across as "capitalist worker's paradise" vs "socialist worker's paradise" … a bit too idealized on both ends of the spectrum (at least the movie did). The movie was also extremely condensed based on the length and depth of the two videos posted above.

    Sadly I see the US and Europe in the same state as Atlas Shrugged now … or very nearly there … and we have no John Galt.
  • RocketDogRocketDog Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 782 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    Fountainhead is also idealistic, but it is more subtle.
  • nigelmarkdiasnigelmarkdias Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 1,323 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    Keep in mind that Alan Greenspan wrote Gold & Economic Freedom first published in Ayn Rand's "Objectivist" newsletter, 1966, & reprinted in Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, 1967.
    Was Chairman Greenspan the Gorgon's head that Perseus used to convert Atlas to stone? @RocketDog
    See also, Money & Moral Attributes
    Personally, I look to render unto Caesar as applicable.
    L'chaim, to life :)
  • RocketDogRocketDog Silver ✭✭✭✭ Posts: 782 Silver ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting, @nigelmarkdias, "The very stone which the builders rejected has become the corner stone" -- fiat currency?
    Of course render unto Caesar -- give him back the worthless fiat, render unto God -- the land and fruits thereof; your soul, which you can reclaim when you're done working for Caesar?

    I like that Greenspan said this, "If men did not have some commodity of objective value which was generally acceptable as money, they would have to resort to primitive barter or be forced to live on self-sufficient farms and forgo the inestimable advantages of specialization." My plan was to buy enough gold to pay a lifetime of property tax and equipment. And to grow my own food using Aquaponics and four season farming techniques.

    Obviously Greenspan knew better. So many of these politicians and business men know better. What force is it that has them all at its whim to continue to do the wrong thing?

    Interesting times for sure.
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